Born 16 June 1855 at Tillington, Stafford, second son and fourth of the seven children of Edward Marsh (b 1806), yeoman farmer, and Elizabeth Hall, his second wife. He was educated at King Edward's School, Stafford, and King's College Hospital, London. After qualifying in 1877 he served with the Tur

Born 2 December 1857 at Ynyscynhaiarn, Carnarvonshire, the eldest son and second child of the Rev Thomas Jones (born 1826) of Cefnmaesydd, afterwards of Eisteddfa, Criccieth, a small landed proprietor, and Elizabeth, the only daughter of Robert Jones of Eisteddfa; seven of their ten children grew up